Award-winning 'Joker' premieres at Toronto Film Festival

Joker's Trick: Todd Phillips' Joker Takes Home The Highest Honour At The Venice Film Festival

It is well known that Joaquin Phoenix has eschewed comic book movie roles in the past, like when he was attached to play Doctor Strange in the MCU. The script revolves around a failed stand-up comedian who takes the path of crime and creates chaos in Gotham City. Reeves' forthcoming Bat-movie is rumored to include a chunk of Batman's rogues' gallery, and it's possible the Joker might appear there - or, indeed, in any future Batman movies directed by Reeves - but if so, it will not be Phoenix's Joker (who, it's worth noting, would probably be over 70 years old based on the timeline established in Phillips' film). (Previously, in 2004, writer A.J Lieberman revealed Joker's name as Jack, but didn't provide a surname.) Though this was huge news for comic book readers at the time, fans who followed the Joker throughout his film depictions had certainly heard this name before.

Meanwhile, it sounds as though Pattinson's Bruce Wayne will have his hands plenty full in The Batman even without Phoenix's Joker.

The Joker and Batman have been making the headlines respectively. It's also tracking to be highly profitable at the box office, which is certainly more great news for DC and Warner Bros. Philips spoke to Variety and confirmed that Batman and Joker are not meeting. It makes sense that his official name has sort of flew under the radar, and why it was so easy for Phillips to pick a totally new one for Joker. Positioned as a sort of original "incel", Phillips' Joker could end up being a cautionary tale for our modern times - and Phoenix is contributing to that as well.

Before you go praising Venice's wisdom and cultural progressiveness in giving a superhero movie the award, though, you should know that convicted rapist Roman Polanski won the second place Silver Lion Grand Jury Prize.

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Phoenix keeps it going for a little while, and there's a point where the movie looks like it might address the appeal of The Joker as an incel icon; he takes what he wants, laughs at authority and has hundreds of acolytes hanging on his every word, of course they'd identify with him.

On April 3, Warner Bros Pictures released the first trailer for Joker. It would seem this concept of multiple Jokers may already be getting a small test.

This backs up previous reports that Joker is meant to be a completely standalone movie with no planned sequels or spinoffs. Joker will be released in theaters on October 4.

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